ceiling. the sequester, it really aims at the wrong side of the problem. the long-term challenge is entitlements, the sequester is fundamentally about discretionary spending, from a fiscal hawk point of view it doesn't get to the issue. >> what you say, ron, revenue, additional tax increases? >> from a -- tactical point of view, the democrats are putting themselves in the position by not getting everything they want. asking the republicans to come back and asking for a second tax increase is asking for a lot, politically. >> what about that dana? >> absolutely, the moment the deal was struck on new year's eve or new year's day, kind of a blur, republicans came out and said if the democrats think they will get anymore tax increases they're living on mars. it is not going to happen. it is it, we're done, not going to happen. you're exactly right, we're done. what is so fascinating, making people frustrated with washington right now is exactly what you said, ron, the whole point of the sequester